thoroughly? >> yeah, you know, that's the issue. the reality is we don't know what's right, what's wrong in terms of what's true or untrue. that's why you have to subject them to a vet thorough examination. and you know, i don't get for the life of me, if you're going to have a hearing, don't have a show hearing. have a hearing that probes the truth and ultimately gets to the truth. when you just call two parties to make it can what she said and he said without calling any other parties and getting witnesses or documentation or therapist notes, it looks like window dressing. at the end of the day, everyone has to be treated equally and power can -- it should not take over truth. that i think is what's happening here. it's a big problem. >> the cosby allegations went back decades but him going to primp, doesn't that get rid of the whole idea that old allegations don't matter or don't count? >> i started before the break making that point. the timing of this reopens that