one of the main reasons that working class wages stagnated in this country for so long is because we tolerated about a million illegal workers a year who absolutely flooded the market, particularly in working class jobs. >> many studies have debunked that, steve. >> the opposite. working class wages are rising faster than white collar wages. in no small part because of immigration -- >> this ad is race est throuistd through. >> there are studies all over the place on both sides of that issue. there are many studies. it makes common sense if you flood the market with illegal workers wages will be reduced. >> i have to go. >> it makes common sense. >> for fairness, he was kicked out of the country by president clinton. he came back in under george w. bush and george w. bush kicked him out. again, the studies don't show that. i thank you both for your time. we're going to be talking about this for the next couple days and beyond that. sea sadly. >> thank you both. we'll be right back.