joining me is bill newborn and bill burton. we requested republican press secretaries, none of them took us up on our offers. let's talk about this, burt. i want to go to you first, you were part of a lawsuit that cited in this cnn complaint as precedent in this case. federal judge granted cnn a hearing foam in the lawsuit against president trump over jim acosta's press credentials, this comes down to press freedom and process. >> this is an important case, this is not just something for trump to beat up on the press and the press to beat up on trump. there's a very important principle at stake. the principle is the role of the press as news gathers in a free society. if the government can shut the ability of the press down to cover events, then the government can manipulate what people hear.