about all fake news. >> well, it's not fake news. there's a paper trail here of these e-mails. the white house, we should say, had no comment on ivanka trump's e-mail practices. let's discuss. scott jennings, you have to admit, this looks and sounds awfully hypocritical. >> yeah. the headline and what most people are going to hear about the story does look hypocritical. i think a reading of the two stories, you can see the differences between the two. there was no, as far as we know, intent to delete e-mails, go around the presidential records. they say they have made an effort to preserve everything. what the white house has to do, jim, is create their own time line and transparency here about exactly how they handled the situation when it was discovered what she was doing. and if they can do that and get out in front of it, it will take some of the sting out of what the house democrats are clearly going to do, which is open another line of investigations into this white house over this e-mail issue. >> well, there's a line of investigation that may be warranted. again, we don't know the answer