terrorist activity with dissident activity from abroad. >> important point. good reporting. thank you so much for that. let's get analysis. joining us is jamie ruben and secretary of state under bill clinton. thanks for joining us. what's your reaction to that? >> that's pretty juicy evidence for what this has been all about. we always understood that jamal khashoggi was a critic of the current leadership in saudi arabia. but the fact that he was going to take this to the next level and build a dissident group. human rights activists, people trying to give information and give opinion, it wasn't the word electronic army could be misunderstood. people are trying to speak the truth and tell what they think about their current government. for saudi arabia, that is real full-fledged opposition. that's the kind of thing that makes princes and crown princes worry about their future.