listen, if roger -- >> michael cohen says he's telling the truth. >> we can run tape on this network where michael cohen says the president is truthful, honest, the best guy going. you say was he lying then or is he lying now? that's the question. >> if mueller considers cohen to be a serious witness, he has to have his own corroboration because he's not going to take michael cohen at his own word. >> michael cohen's track record of statements, he's just -- >> all over the place. >> ridiculous. >> here's the thing, there have been so many of these instances of the president tweeting about the case, tweeting at -- making statements about witnesses who are in an active criminal enterprise investigation. if this was any other regular person, we would be saying you're not supposed to try to be intimidating and it's a violation of criminal law to try to intimidate witnesses. just because he's doing it out in the open doesn't make it not something that -- >> how do you think his lawyers are responding to this because his lawyers have done, i would