to another group based on race. and based on what this president has put out there it is clear that he believes that. now, so don't -- lord have mercy. don, i just -- >> here's the thing. we're not going to say -- you know, you and i have had this conversation. i've had it on your program. fire long time i was reluctant to call trump a racist. i said that he was a bigot. i said he was racially insensitive because the idea of racism is really what nina's talking about, this idea of being in power and being superior over others. and i was like, is he really doing that in his position? in the beginning i had to reconcile that. as we've gone further into his president and his reaction, his reaction to charlottesville sealed the deal for me. there is no way that someone who does not have racist, bigoted racially insensitive, however you want to define it, tendencies in them can look at the charlottesville situation and say there are good people on both sides. no way. that sealed the deal for me.