do you believe that those words will weigh heavy? in legal reckoning of the move. >> they will. the lawsuit will say that there is no real emergency. he will say there's an emergency. the defense will be that the president decides whether there's an emergency. the court can't look behind that. here the president is saying there's no real emergency. that's a body blow. to his case. >> the strongest part would be what you are saying, this has never been challenged. it is seen as open ended. emergency isn't defined. if it's not defined, you go with the definition of person in power to make it. he just defined it. >> the court might say it's a political question between the two branchs of government. the court won't object to it. if the president admitted up front it's a political stunt and not a real emergency, i think that's a very difficult -- >> you asked for answers. what do you want to know? what happens if the white house says, we're not answering your