was a crisis, he could have vetoed the legislation. he's never vetoed appropriations legislation and now he wants to declare an emergency to do something that congress has already debated and discussed. >> you've already heard senator kennedy say this and president trump has said this many times that there is a, quote, national security crisis on the border. is that wrong? >> i think there's a fair debate that there are big problems on the border. some people would call it a crisis. but that has to go through congress. so we have a legislative branch, congress, that handles these issues and the president doesn't get to decide that he can override congress simply because congress doesn't do what he wants. i know that there are a lot of people in the country who agree with the president and that's why we have congress so we can debate these issues and if there were an emergency in the sense that the president is describing, there would be a lot more consensus. when a house is on fire, nobody