or 40 years and take a context and take it completely out of context. and i mean, you know, i get all this information about other people's pasts and what they've done and not done and i'm just not going to go there. if we keep doing that, i mean, what we should be debating -- for example, this whole thing about race and busing, well, i think if you take a look, our positions aren't any different, as we're finding out. >> with senator harris, she sees it as a tool, not a must in all circumstances. >> yeah, well, look at my rec d record. >> i don't think busing is about policy. i think it was about principle. when you look back at your record on it, you were not in favor of busing. it was a different time and there were different applications. why not just own it and say i was against it but now i've changed? >> i was in favor of busing if a court ruled that there was a law passed, or a circumstance that a county, a city, a state that did