very -- >> and people know, he's repeating people know me. >> that should actually be his campaign slogan, people know me, you know me. you hear him say that over and over and over again. >> to be fair, first of all, on the busing issue, kamala harris's actual position and biden's actual position are not that far apart and senator harris has had her instances on what is her position on employee funded health care plans. is she for them or against them? >> this is one of the cases where we've got the policy and politics. on the policy, we've got the candidates early in the race figuring out what their position is in the midst of when the party is in a massive upheaval of should it be heading to the left or the middle. so you have candidates on one day take one strategy and then the next one. but you also have the politics. part of the reason we're having the conversation is joe biden's fault. he kind of stumbled into this. he knew he was going to get