victory. that's a political reality. >> as a guy who holds himself out as an integrity guy, you're not going to really defend lying and calling everything that the media does fake and everything the democrats do fake and subversive because you feel you're under siege? >> agreed. >> that's the problem with people on the right. you know what i mean? everything he says is okay. >> i am not prepared to say everything under the sun is a hoax. i've tried to call hem as i have seen them to be fair. i have said things with regard to the conduct of the investigation where i didn't think things were fair. >> understood. >> and when i thought the president was right, i said so. one of the areas of which was i had no problem with the 448 page report except for one sentence. i do not think it was wise for the special counsel after he did what he did and said what he said to get into this whole exoneration question. >> i agree. preet never used that word