and a lot of them are basically just trying to wait out the trump administration and hoping for better, more saner times in the future. obviously in the case of chuck park, his conscience nagged him and he felt he could not be part of this monstrous administration. and i, you know, i admire him and i respect his stand on principle, but, you know, it's a very difficult dilemma, anderson, that i think everybody in the government faces because if all of the good people of conscience, if all of the dedicated public servants resigned in protest, who is going to be left? it's going to be people like stephen miller and these crazy ideologs who i deal ogs who are going to be running the entire government. >> stephen miller and others might deride them as bureaucrats or deep state, but these are people who have dedicated their lives to serves. service, in this case, the foreign service. and, you know, serve in every administration. the idea is they are serving the country, not the political winds.