they said the nra is going to remain pretty powerful through your election and their members, many of them are your voters. so they're still going to have a voice. the nra hasn't really come out pushing back aggressively yet. i'm told that is coming. if that comes, we'll see what the president says. >> there was reporting about a phone call from wayne lapierre from the nra. >> the president called wayne lapierre on tuesday. he said it time to get this done, there's going to be a signing in the rose garden and lapierre was pretty clear that that is not something the nra is going to support. we have no idea what the details are. there's no intelligence. the statement is not meaningful because we don't know what he's talking about. we s the president also said he had spoken with lapierre several times this week. as i understand it, they had