bolton doesn't come testify, there's no reason that pompeo doesn't have to at least answer written questions, mick mulvaney, of course, if you read the piece he seems to be a central figure in this. it was dual tracks. i think that people are forgetting that sometimes. it wasn't just rudy giuliani and his campaign to solicit information against joe biden, but it was also this track of withholding the information. i mean i read the piece and i could just think about this is an amazing tom clancy novel. it just goes and meanders from one side to another, but the fact is that the person at the center of this, the person at the center of all of this who is the puppeteer for both of these tracks is donald trump. you know, it's behavior that's impeachable and the behavior that got him impeached. >> what did you find compelling in this story? >> couple of things. number one, i did is think it was interesting that several senior officials in the u.s. government tried to talk the president out of it. the president, another issue i