this virus. that's an important distinction. it doesn't mean that transparency isn't needed. it is needed because we needed to know if that -- if the virus was known about a lot earlier because vaccines could have been developed earlier. things could have been contained earlier. this is important to know, like president biden and dr. fauci said. but it's hard to construct a virus, and unleash it to the world. in fact, no virus that i've known of, can you do that. >> it's a very important point but it's also, to your very point about the transparency, maybe you need new global regulations or recommendations for these labs and what they should and should not be doing with existing viruss, the question is how do you get to the bottom of this, and this is a long list of issues between the biden administration, it was the trump administration and now the biden administration and the chinese government, between the biden administration and the world health organization, republican senator todd young saying this is a test for the government, donald trump pulled out, joe biden got back in, todd