putin saying back, i think we understand each other. it's not like these guys haven't sparred before. biden has been around for 50 years in politics. putin has been president of russia for about 20 years. these are both going to be very experienced people will be sitting down here. what we're all hoping for, those of us watch russia and not in the business of making a drama out of it for television is we get out of all of this unscathed and we then move on to the next set of meetings. what it would be good to be back again is to some kind of predictability and sequences of meetings so we don't have to hyperventilate every time there is an idea of an american president meeting with his russian counterpart. but of course putin is in the business of subversion. so i think we can expect he will try to take some shots at biden, some cheap shots. he's been making fun of biden's age. putin said he will be around until 2036 by which time he will be six years older than biden is now at 84. i would suggest he should be careful about that one.