better? >> first, i see in this a veiled shot at governor romney. >> no, this is not a shot at governor romney. >> i'm just kidding. >> seriously, i didn't even bring him up. >> i'm reading between the lines. let me answer the question. first what we did learn in massachusetts is that in fact, what we learned is that no individual state has the muscle sufficient, the market scale sufficient in order to bring costs down sufficiently. what we did find in massachusetts is costs to individual localities around the state did dramatically go down, now they have a safety net that is in place. all i can tell you is experts around here, you can call them a lot of things, partisan they are not, the experts at the budget office disagree. they say over the course of the long term this is going to save an enormous amount of money. understand the choice, we made tough decisions with health care to try to to figure out a way for the number of people that are uninsured whether we
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