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better and it is because of immigrants. 10% of the -- 40% of the people that live in new york city were born outside of the united states. >> chris: what do you say to those people that are saying he is saying the people who broke the law are going to benefit? >> no, number one it is us that are going to benefit. you and me and the rest this country. slamming our thumb with a hammer because it feels good when we stop is a nice thing to talk about but it is not good policy. these people are here, yes, they broke the law nobody should say they shouldn't, figure out a way to pay a penalty and do what we need to have them do to become productive citizens and get on with it. we can sit here ten years from now, when the economy will be a lot worse if we don't do something and say yes, we saw the same problem. you are not going to solve the problem by yelling and screaming at those people. they came here, they broke the law and let me tell you this country encouraged them to come here and made sure that we didn't stop them. this were industries that wanted them. groups of relatives who wanted

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