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logic has overwhelmed you, governor, you know you want these guys to come home and you know you don't want another ten year occupation somewhere and let's get them out of afghanistan, too, right? >> i never want today see this thing go ten years. >> gooed. >> mike: i would rather see as america would typically go in as colin powell would say overwhelming force and make it it quick and decisive. the fact that it's lasted ten years, there have been a lot of people that didn't come home to their families and the pain of this war is unquestionable. my point goes back, this is a president it wasn't just the war, we all support the troops, the president supported the troops i'm the not going to question his patriotism nor his support for the troops. i'm talking about his support for the mission of the war. >> wasn't the libya model better, we got in, did a piece of business and got out of there and in fact support from our allies. >> and he knew how to do it from the start to the finish. >> mike: as far as libya i would remind you that the

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