have told but why. and i want to get to that. why did you go public? why did you tell the story and expose things that you thought were wrong? >> primarily because it had gotten out of control, become institutional, widespread and become a practice rather than the exception of the rule. it became the way of doing business. jesselyn, i want to know where you got the atf playbook because everything she stated occurred in her situation or her clients' situation has happened to me. standard practice, attack those make the allegations. the actual people involved in the fast and furious oversight, they've all prospered. not one of them -- they're all going home to their families. brian will never go home to his family. not one point of accountability. >> the important point that you make, the other people, the ones