so is i don't know how this thing ends. and frankly at this point the republicans have -- i guess been swimming into the river far enough that it is just as well to keep swimming the direction they're going because turning around and going back is not a good option at this point. >> governor, what do you have coming up on your show tonight? >> we're going to have great show. we've got james lankford, congressman from oklahoma who will be with us. we will be talking with him about what's going on in that house caucus because he's the president of the republican policy committee. we also have ala brown who is going to be terrific. scott brown's daughter. believe me, she is a coming country star and she's going to be doing music on our show. a lot more and we hope people will join us at 8:00 eastern tonight and sunday night. >> she does have a lovely voice. i know a lot of people are going to be tuning in to your show as am i. appreciate you joining us as always. thank you so much. >> thank you, uma. great to talk to you. >> you, too. so what do you think? how is the shutdown gone on long enough or should the house gop