gretchen? >> wow. thanks so much for that update. so the uaw had a huge opportunity to get in the door, right? in a southern right-to-work state, but ended up failing despite two years of planning and even volkswagen's cooperation with the union. joining me now is our biz panel. all right. i think some people were surprised that with all of the efforts of volkswagen to say, hey, it appeared they were saying the union will be a good thing for you. why the fail in your mind? >> i think the people are speaking out, actually. i don't think people are as happy with the unions as they were 10, 15, 20 years ago. we're seeing a major, major shift in the system. >> why? >> i think management is treating people more fairly. people do have a right to work also. and if you're involved in a large block of people, people have a right to work. >> so kate, you cover business
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