they knew about it in 2012. >> even before that. we've broken it down. it's really quite incredible when you go year by year. you look at 2011. the va leaders nationwide were told to stop gaming the system. then in 2012, there was an audit in the southwest va. they found arizona, texas, and new mexico had violated policies and that it was common place across the united states. then in 2013 e-mails revealed that the southwest va leaders were aware of scheduling problems and fraud. >> but we wouldn't have found out about any of this if there weren't whistle blowers that came forward. according to the inspector general, $10 million over the last three years were given out in bonuses to these people who obviously cared more about bringing their money home than