tremendous amount 35 years. >> another one, bo bergdahl. bowe bergdahl discussion whether he should be granted a pardon. >> interesting and compelling case in terms of the optics for president obama. this is a case where he has actually upside. if bowe bergdahl doll does not go to trial and the president does, in fact then we won't have the benefit of listening to any kind of cross-examination where all the facts and details of his capture of the people who lost their lives during the time looking for him, two of those specific cases before the court to allow that information to come in. all of that would become then relevant, probative, subject to cross-examination, and, therefore, public disclosure. this is a very messy situation for the president. you remember the glamorous rose garden ceremony with bowe bergdahl's parents there and father sporting