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chris: wait, you're going to blame the problems of obamacare on trump. >> we have a situation under obamacare where there was a one time premium freeze last year that made up for the fact that they massively underpriced in the first two years. the problem with fixed is that profits were trending positively and they were saying positive things about the bill succeeding and then you have a president who comes in, undercuts open enrollment, doesn't on of the application and premiums are going up and insurers are exiting. chris: we are running out of time and i'm interrupting both of you equally. carl, your thoughts. >> he blamed it all on the insurers because the government told them to consider that they would get a lot more healthy, younger people than they actually got on any year this programs benefi in effect. trump stopped the ads. the problems of obamacare can be solved with four days worth of

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