continue to happen. it's crazy. >> laura: joe, i'm going to go to you here, because newsom was on another network tonight, the governor of california, and he said this. >> crisis, not just manufactured in the context of the larger issue, but is substantively manufactured with intentionality by the trump administration, that's metering those crossings, doing nothing to help support these people and actually creating the conditions that they are condemning. this is a farce. it's political theater, and the fact is, california is not going to play part of that. >> laura: okay, joe, so it's manufactured, that by the end of this year, we'll have about 800,000 people who have crossed our border in between ports of entry, gaming the system, jumping ahead in line of other people waiting patiently to apply legally, claiming asylum,