the 1990s. starr was with maria bartiromo a bit earlier today, and here's how he phrased what we think is happening at the moment. just watch here. >> in that letter on friday that bill barr sent the first communication to congress, he made a very important statement that goes to who we are as a free people. he said there have been no instances, none, when the attorney general of the united states -- rod rosenstein, matt whitaker, now bill barr -- overruled the independent counsel. he has enjoyed, as a practical matter within the justice department, independence. that means we have a rule of law system here in the united states -- bill: and i think the two headlines late on friday that everybody's been chewing over all weekend, no collusion and no further indictments. if that holds up, that could be significant. how did you hear that news, professor? >> well, i thought that was very significant but determinative. i think it does show that the