he called it obsolete. he managed to bring in around $130 billion extra for their coffers. we've seen a far less confrontational relationship so far today and a number of issues have been discussed. the withdrawal of troops from afghanistan, something most other nato members here disapprove of. and of course they'd been discussing threats from russia, the buildup of troops in ukraine, cyber attacks and human rights violations. president biden also this evening sent a warning. >> i'm not looking for conflict with russia but we will respond if russia continues its harmful activities. it will not fail to defend the transatlantic alliance or stena for democratic values. >> also being discussed was china. nato was originally set up to counter russia but there is now a push to repurpose it to counter the growing chinese threat. there are questions about the overall strength of the mastering so far on the trip.