but i've noticed talking to people over there, there's a heightened awareness now. it's not just fear and doubt. >> again, we're listening to a firefighter, a former volunteer firefighter who rushed out to the scene, as he pointed out, you don't see something like this every day, even in his line of work. a huge fire resulting from this crash. let's go to nbc's tom costello. tom, i'm told you've got some new information for us. >> this is what i wanted to give you a little bit ago, but i wanted to double confirm it. we believe that mr. stack, who we believe was piloting this plane, does, in fact, own a piper cherokee. that's not to say that this was the same piper cherokee. however, we are aware that he is the owner of a piper cherokee and that that particular plane was listed to a california address, which matches his software company's address. so i think we can therefore deduce, not only that he was a pilot, but we can also deduce that he is familiar with the piper cherokee. again, we don't know if it's the