one complicating issue here. address the charges against assange in sweden. are they a ruse? are they a front for something else? and even if they are, indeed, something nefarious against him, you are still in essence participating in bailing out a man who has been charged with criminal sexual charges or will be charged under these circumstances. address that. >> that's the thing. he hasn't been charged. they brought no criminal charges against him. they want to talk to him about -- this whole thing stinks to the high heavens. i have to tell you. i mean, i wasn't born yesterday, but i've seen this enough times where governments and corporations go after individuals, geez, i think i was just on your show a couple weeks ago talking about this with my film and the health care industry. they go after people with this kind of lie and smear. daniel elsburg told you last week how they went after him. his guilt or innocence of this.