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going after, without trying to reduce entitlements and republicans do, that will be a stark contrast. >> it will. >> i mean, a stark contrast. >> we had an election that republicans say, this is proof we need to cut. they weren't forced by the election to explain what they wanted to cut. the election occurred, they won. now they have a second chance to tell us what they're for. if they don't, then i don't think anything will happen. but they must. >> do you think they're brave enough. the democrats will say, you hate old people. you hate old people. they're going to get old people to rally. >> it makes it difficult for them to get entitlements. and they're saying, the president didn't either. >> they'll lose florida. >> that's the thing. it's not true. these days, i will say it again, political courage gets rewarded. i will say it again. marco rubio in the middle of the debate, the republican primary, he talked about social security retirement age going up to 70. that's much more bold than anything the deficit commission -- the debt commission came up with, and he won 2-1. he was running against two

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