said it would be so easy to oppose this marriage if it wasn't so obvious she was the perfect girl for you. >> that's nice. >> there's been a big change. a lot of jewish communities now are facing the reality that their kids are marrying out. ten years ago we wrote a book about mixed marriages where people would whisper to us. my kid did it. and now, it's much more open and jewish community has to adapt because of the reality of it. that's one of the reasons we did the book. >> i'll assume your dad said that, said what he said, around your 15th wedding anniversary. >> he still referred to cokie as a chef. >> at least privately. >> let's go back to the origins. you couldn't define a more deeply catholic area in some instances than new orleans where you grew up. you couldn't come up with a more deeply jewish area than northern new jersey or metropolitan new york than you came from. >> true. >> so how has it changed, do you