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or those tax loopholes as a rise in taxes. they're saying there will be no rise in taxes as long as we're here. it doesn't matter what the tax is. it will be over our dead bodies. with them drawing that kind of line in the sand, calling everything that has any revenue consequence a tax rise and saying that's off the table, is there a way to see this ending? i'm not sure i know where this story goes. >> well, they draw this line in the sand on corporate jets, on oil country subsidies, oil company subsidies, on what's happened in wyoming with the 2,000 sort of shell companies. they draw that line in the sand. they're going to see most of america walk across that line from the other side from where republicans are. the only thing that cantore missed is usually they say when president obama does something like that or when we do something like that, they usually accuse of class warfare. we're not committing class warfare. they've committed tax warfare for two decades by loading up

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