country had an anti-nancy pelosi ad. i wonder what we're seeing the early part of a cantor strategy of that nature. >> if i were in the white house, you can see john boehner, somebody they singled out before, mitch mcconnell has had his sort of day in sun. i think there is some, i think, some hesitation on the part of the left in terms of the strategy because it does -- it sort of -- it doesn't denigrate necessarily the office of president but some people think, look, he should be bigger than this. there's a lot of anger and frustration. >> you're saying this is punching down. >> yeah, it's playing in the sand box. >> if you're the president of the united states, there's nowhere to punch but down, right? >> certainly this is a white house that has had their fair share of -- come on, guys. the rhetoric of, if the president stops his my way or the highway is frustrating. i do think it speaks to a certain frustration and almost a