sometimes we've had some good numbers because in part some people weren't looking for work anymore. so i think that's actually -- so there are a number of positives. but i think the president has been very realistic all along. it's really a shame to how fast jack welch and others came out to disparage the numbers when -- this is a good thing for the country. it should not be so linked to politics. >> can i ask you that, kieran? is the president the luckiest man in the world for this to come out on the heels of his lousy debate performance? was he born under a lucky star? >> we would be having a very different conversation if the numbers hadn't really changed. hard to gauge. there was always the possibility that with the friday job numbers it was either going to help feed into whatever momentum romney had coming out of the debate or blunt that which is part of what i think has happened here. but i think the pressure is still on for the president going into the next debate. it was not a great debate