really wants to look in the camera and say that. at the same time, we need to figure out how to start more companies. because the days when a big manufacturing company is going to come to your town, ford motor's not going to come with 25,000 people anymore. they're going to come with 2,500 people and 2,500 robots. so we need 100 people starting jobs for 20. 20 people starting jobs for 30. so the whole approach to job creation has to change. >> yeah. >> and i thought president obama, at the very end, really started to get into that. well, that means we need more education. we need more government research to stimulate more googles and more amazons, et cetera. but he continues, i think, to be weak on something that's been his strength. i mean, no child left behind, he did not use those words last night. no child left behind has been a great success, but he doesn't -- he doesn't get excited talking about the innovation economy that, in fact, he's put in place a lot of the pillars for. >> and neither guy gave pointed