we saw that happen last week, the real-world effects that could occur, things like fewer air traffic controllers, the national parks have to shut down visitor centers and other agency having to furlough workers and reaches across basic government services. we'll have to wait and see come tuesday, wednesday, thursday, get a sense of the country is that concerned or if they are sitting this here and saying, gosh, seeing this song and dance before. government shutdown in april 2011, the debt ceiling showdown that summer, the fiscal cliff on new year's eve, and this -- i think -- and there will be another fight over government spending by the end of march. we have been seeing this for two years and maybe george will is right. most people saying, gosh, they are sorting it out and we'll ride it out. >> people need to understand that it is going to hit them in