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this is so far an unreported story. we're going to do our bid here, on the unkindness cut, a line from a speech of what happened to cesar. this is what happened to little people, not cesar. we're getting a lot of attention, we had a lot of talk about the fact the air traffic controllers had to get their money. that that was an exception. my question, it's a political question, why doesn't some smart liberal, or progressive, on the floor of the house, bring a bill to the floor that says why don't we bring back the meals on wheels program? why don't we bring back the subsidies for food pantries. then it jammed the -- even the conservative members into voting for it. >> i'm not sure it would jam the conservative members. if you look at some of the republican policies, especially in the house, they've wanted to cut exactly these social programs in order to pay for tax cuts. i think as a reporter the interesting story here, though, is it really throws into sharp relief the kind of lobbying power that certain organizations

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