>> having ideological motivation. >> right. they weren't shooting because of identity or something like that. but it is terrifying. >> right. >> and the whole point of why we need gun control legislation is part of why the background checks are insufficient although they are the first step we need. it is accessibility of handguns to people with no respect for human life to stand there and fire into that crowd. a crowd with children. >> that image is crazy. that image is really maniacal to be standing there pointing that gun. you can see it there. it strikes me -- there's polling numbers. i wanted to talk to you, make sure things were cool in your neighborhood first of all, but i wanted to talk about this story. there's this kind of two america thing on guns and the gun conversation. and in one america guns are i grew up, my dad took me to the shooting range, i went hunting.
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