like this in place. >> exactly. what we've seen from the conservatives is the idea that it's been long enough and black turnout has gone high enough, which was mentioned in oral arguments that we don't need this any more. that is just as a logical point, a weird argument, right? if you use your seat belt every day and that keeps you safe, that doesn't necessarily mean that you should stop using your seat belt after a certain amount of time. and so these programs particularly section 5 of the voting rights act, doesn't prevent anyone from getting their rights, it doesn't have a cost on the other side. all it says is if certain areas that have discriminated in the past, if they want to make changes, they have to be precleared by the doj. so a lot of house support it, myself included, feel it is a fairly low-cost way to make sure people's rights are afforded to them. >> we haven't seen anything move, you think it's going to come out one big day at the end, they surprise us all. >> big cases tend to come at the end, we'll see it in a couple of weeks. that's going to wrap things up for me, see you back tomorrow