both the strategic and the ethical consideration here. >> i think it does. i mean, i think that the argument for keeping someone alive against their will is obviously strongest when you can make an argument that that person is not of sound mind or body. you know, that their untreated mental illness or something like that and things are going to get better for them. these people are saying, look, i've been here for 11 jeer 1 ye some cases. every indication could be i could be in this little cell for the rest of my life though the united states says i'm not dangerous, some cases i'm innocent, and i could be released. i'm stuck here. what a kafkaesque situation. to me, it seems pretty rational, frankly, a human being in that situation might say i would rather be dead. >> or take the most extreme possibility of protesting i could in order to dramatize my plight.