people's environment. and joy, let me ask you a little bit about that. because part of the challenge that this movement represented by this 50th commemoration is, is that this is not just about race, this is not even primarily about civil rights, this is about lbgt questions, immigration, environment. that seems like a tougher coalition of people to hold together. >> yeah, it's difficult. because you're trying to sort of build this multi-faceted view of what civil rights means, when i think in the minds of many people, civil rights means what it meant 50 years ago. it meant an african-american issue. and it was even sometimes getting the civil rights establishment to accept the expansion of the feed for civil rights into an lbgt community. so you have a challenge, because some of these coalitions are sort of fractured, and they each have their own needs and their own priorities. so getting everyone on to the same page, but i think that's ones of the reasons the fight against it is so tough, and the fight against it is so fierce, because i think there's always