sympathetic populations in the green belt are in danger, that they are being harassed, that they're being attacked, that they're being threatened by the yellow part. >> right. >> by the ukrainian nationals. >> is that propaganda or is there evidence? >> i think a lot of it is propaganda. there are fascists and extrem t extremists and there are certain people in ukraine who don't want to see that, you know, crimea or other parts of the country go away, but i think it would be pretty easy to either create a provocation or to take advantage of a provocation and see russia advance further. that's really what i think the united states is trying to do with all the sanctions, with all the next moves. many people i've spoken to think crimea may be a lost cause at this stage and you have to put these sanctions in place and take a, draw a line in the sand so the rest of the country doesn't go. >> but, obviously these places are more diverse than we're showing in a two-color map. there are ukrainian speaking