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sign-ups. 4 million, 5 million people who would be eligible for medicaid if 20-plus governors hadn't refused to take the medicaid expansion. there is a lot to talk about here. but turnout is the issue, the democrats lost big in 2010 because the other side was energized, mobilized and angry, and the democratic side wasn't ready to fight. and the real question this year is if they will do something a little bit differently than they did in 2010. >> e.j., historically, not to date you, you have covered politics for a long time. there has never -- >> i'm used to it ed. >> okay. there's never been this level of obstruction. and i think that, you know, if representatives on the republican side vote for minimum wage, it's not going to hurt them. if they vote for equal pay for women, they can go home and make a case that there is no war on women. if they vote for long-term unemployment, it's affecting

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