>> howard dean you know it's so interesting, everybody is talking about how america moved to the left on the issue of gay marriage and i saw this in pensacola, florida, a very very conservative place. i was in a district called the most conservative in the world, every memorial day, you would have i think up to 100,000 maybe more gay and lesbians come to pensacola and hang out on pensacola beach, to show them a year or two, the cham fwer of commerce is enough. this is really good for the city financially and that was what maybe 15 year ago? but you see this in state after state after state, mike pence, very conservative guy, had to bow to chamber pressure. you are probably going to see this with asa hutchinson and arkansas. >> i think you are seeing a redefinition of the word
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