practice. >> that's the only upside. first i have to say, congratulations and thank you to niya for actually standing up. and telling the story. actually being a voice of reason in that moment. and we see the consequences of that is basically now she's in trouble, too. you know, it's so outrageous what happened that it's difficult for us to also focus on the fact that charges are still pending against both of these women. that's telling us something about what the consequence is of having police in schools, right? you know, there's that thing if you're a hammer everything looks like a nail. if you're a police officer, everything looks like a crime. if you're a vi leapt police officer, every moment of defiance as you define it is a justification for coesive force. we're talking serious coercion. >> yeah, i'd like your thoughts on that as a former police officer yourself. i've talked to a lot of cops over the last two years. a lot of them say look,
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