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>> yes. >> breitbart -- >> in a very specific context, we should say. there's a lot more to that statistic. >> fair enough. but let's say it's just close. >> right. >> that's a big problem for a democracy where knowledge and information is basically so fluid as it's almost impossible to grab on to. >> i think he's doing something very tactically interesting with this going after "the new york times" because what he can do by going after "the new york times," is he can union laterally declare them the economy, ergo, they are biased. if donald trump is fighting with "the new york times," "the new york times" won't treat him fairly. it's a threat particularly when it comes from the bully pulpit of the president of the united states, it carries a threat and any of his supporters, you don't have to listen to anything from those folks. >> not like his supporters did. there's a vague precedent to this.

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