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things and they can do something that is malevolent so there's a lot of tension going on here now and the goal is to make sure that they anticipate what could happen, respond quickly, but in a deliberative way so that you make sure that you don't escalate the situation. >> when you look at what happened last weekend in virginia, and then you look at what happened just this week in barcelona, these are car attacks, and we're only seeing more of them. you mentioned them earlier in them being one of the biggest challenges in terms of a protest like this. what's the solution or is there one to attacks like that? >> it is why isis has been talking about car attacks and also using a knife, because it's a very low-level, low-grade attack. you don't need to be trained. you don't need to have any real planning or preparation. you don't have to do any pre-operational surveillance and in fact, from a law enforcement perspective, until the car actually comes in contact with the victims, there is no crime.

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