nowitzki campaign. >> that's what they say it is. >> i think that's a story they're feeding to the press. what they found themselves with was all of these stolen documents. a felony under new york state law, it's also a crime under the federal statute and it was too hot for them to handle. roger stone farmed it out and everybody else jumped on it, kushner, don jr., the president, and they made a complete positive deniability so they wouldn't be stuck with the stolen documents. >> the last thing i'll say -- let me go back to you, malcolm, because we have to let you go in a second. >> sure. >> is the idea of the -- so much deception and deceit and forgetting about all of these contacts. and the thing that sticks out to me the most is just the idea at some point that papadopoulos says they got a lot of hillary clinton e-mails and you've also got an e-mail saying the russian government is trying to help your dad and no one says or does anything when it becomes clear in the public that the russians have done something extremely serious and hacked the dnc. then you send the candidate out